Harry "Goss" Green, Silverdale CC

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Ken Dobb, Toronto, writes:

As to your inquiry concerning Harry "Goss" Green, I don't know much about him as he was in the generation of cyclists that immediately followed the pioneers of the British Road Records Association that are the principal focus of my article. However, I can tell you that Goss Green is third on the Road Record
Association's list of record holders after Monty Holbein and George Pilkington Mills, setting 15 road records during a ten year period between 1899 and 1909.

The records that he set were:

June 1899 Brighton & back
July 1899 Bath and back
July 1900 Portsmouth and back
August 1900 London - Liverpool
Oct. 1900 100 miles
(same day) 12 hours
(same day) London - York
Sept. 1901 24 hours
August 1902 Brighton & back
August 1902 100 miles
May 1906 50 miles
July 1906 Brighton & back
July 1908 End to End (Land's End to John O'Groats)
June 1909 50 miles
August 1909 Brighton and back

What is significant about Green is not simply the number of records that he set - which is significant in itself - but the manner in which he set them.

He didn't simply chew at the edges of records, he smashed them, setting standards that remained unassailable for decades. His London - Liverpool record, for instance, stood for 29 years; his 12 hour and London - York records for 26 years; his second 100 mile record for 22 years; his 24 hour and his End to End record for 21 years; and his second 50 mile record for thirteen years.

It is significant, too, that he set records at the full spectrum of the events in the RRA record book, the very short - 50 miles and 12 hours - through to the very long - the 875 mile-long End to End. He was demonstrably the dominant distance cyclist of his generation. He was a Londoner who rode first for the Silverdale Cycling Club and then for Croydon Paragon. (Both clubs are no longer in existence). He lived in South London, very close to the route of the Brighton and back course. He was to set the record on this route four times, beginning and ending his record-setting career with new records on this route.

I know a little about his End to End record setting ride - some of the bikes he used and his health during the course of his attempt - but I am not sure that this is the information that you are after. If you have some specific questions, I'll do my best to answer them. I have to warn you though that you have already most of what I know, and that I do not have access to the primary sources - the cycling newspapers of the day - that would allow me to answer you in detail.

As to the photo, what pleased me most about it was that Goss is riding a Dursley-Pedersen. Eric and I got to know each other at Paris-Brest-Paris in 1999. During the course of that ride, I encountered an Englishman mounted on a three-speed Pedersen and the memory of that encounter is indelibly printed on my brain, as one of the highlights of my participation in that event.

Goss' picture puts me in mind of that time. I'm glad that Eric chose to place it at the head of the article. If there is anything else I can help you with, please let me know.

Ken Dobb, Toronto

Only a few of them have ever been produced.

Lars Andersen "made" this bike (drawings by Lars Andersen - created by Jesper Sølling), he rode it some years ago in races at an average speed of 56 km/h. (Written in 1998)

Lars Andersen did some modifications to the frame, but all in all it's a Pedersen.

The bike is handmade with really beautiful workmanship.
The front wheel is 26" erto 571, rearwheel 770c, ertro 622. It has 14 speed gears.

As you can see, from the photo, the rear wheel is very close to the bottom bracket, this is due to the fact that Lars Andersen had to split the frame to make the bike shorter.

Lars Andersen had to make a special seat for the bike. It isn't what we would normally consider as a hammock seat, but it is. The seat can be adjusted.

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David Snyder, CA USA, August, 1996

I do not know where either of my Pedersens were made, and neither has any head badge or serial number. Using a 14 speed setup and 27" wheels.


It appears I've forgotten my cleated shoes, had to borrow clip-pedals for this event, San Gregorio Time-Trial.

Pre-Riding Napa Course a day early. Raced Expert Class the next day and got 68 th out of 96 finishers. Very tough, rocky race course.

This the opening round of (Grundig) world cup series. Number plate is from 1 week earlier, Sea Otter Classic a huge local event. There, I got 11 th out of 200 starters. That was my first race on a Pedersen. 3 ring Crankset, 700c road Wheels, 45 Pararacer "Smoke" tires, suspension stem.

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Off-road Pedersen, (road tyres fitted)

Brian Donnan (UK) with his racing Cheltenham Pedersen.

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Brian Donnan's personal site is here: dursleypedersen.com 

Dave Tigwell makes all his own bikes and is an expert builder of Pedersens. Here he has ridden from Nailsworth (near Dursley) to visit Brian Donnan in Cheltenham... and posed with his latest Pedersen.

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